Holding Space, Finding Light with Sara Zillweger

Episode 4: Holding Space, Finding Light with Sarah Zillweger


What’s Inside This Episode

What’s Inside This Episode
In this episode, I’m catching up with my former colleague and friend, Sarah, a counselor, educator, and photographer currently practicing in Arizona. We dive into her work at Chapter and Page Counseling, her neurodivergent-affirming therapeutic approach, and her recent training in AutPlay therapy. We also talk about the importance of safety, presence, and co-regulation in therapy, and how photography has become her latest creative and potentially therapeutic outlet.

This one’s for you if you’re curious about how to build safe spaces for neurodivergent clients, how therapy can evolve with play and family-centered techniques, or if you just need a little reminder to be where your feet are.

Episode Highlights

This week we talk about:

  • How Sarah’s personal and professional experiences shaped her passion for supporting the neurodivergent community

  • Her work at Chapter and Page Counseling and how the practice prioritizes transparency, family involvement, and emotional safety

  • What AutPlay Therapy is, and how it integrates trauma-informed, neuroaffirming strategies into play-based counseling

  • The role of the therapist as a “container” to help hold space for others

  • Why interdependence—not just independence—is essential in therapy and daily life

  • Sarah’s new side venture into photography, and her vision to blend creativity and therapy through inclusive visual storytelling

  • Her grounding self-care practice: embracing the process and re-centering in the present

Mentioned in this episode:

🔗 AutPlay Therapy

Connect with Sarah

Guest Links

🔗 Follow Sarah on Instagram → @shininglightphotographybysarah

🔗 Check out the Website → Chapter and Page Counseling

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